Convince me he is not. This guy got what he wanted all along. The life he always wanted. While Tony sacrificed himself and others died and he gets to live with his lover.
I'm sorry how getting all he wanted makes him a piece of shit
jews4beer2025-12-15 19:05
OP: I am unhappy therefore the rest of the world should be.
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dbkenny4262025-12-15 19:04
It's fiction. Take a step back and stop getting so worked up in fantasy.
nubnasty2025-12-15 19:28
It’s a discussion relax lol
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Longwinded_Ogre2025-12-15 19:05
"Someone got something nice and Tony didn't, so that person is a piece of shit."
Is that your argument?
Like, Captain America got a happy ending and as such he's an asshole because Tony did not?
I honestly don't know what prompted you to share this third of an idea.
nubnasty2025-12-15 19:29
Not really much of a happy ending because we know what doom bout to do
Longwinded_Ogre2025-12-15 19:40
He's had more than eighty years to enjoy it...
GnomeErcy2025-12-15 19:05
You say that like Steve didn't put his own life on the line multiple times. Just because he didn't die at the end of Endgame doesn't mean he's a POS, just means he is lucky.
nubnasty2025-12-15 19:28
No because now he fucked it all up lol
OrangeSliceRecovery2025-12-15 19:06
You want him to have survivors guilt and end up contemplating suicide like so many that survive traumatic events do? Weird.
InternetDad2025-12-15 19:07
Tony was wildly selfish for 99% of the 9 MCU movies he was in and we're going to be upset at Cap "getting what he wanted"?
Kylynara2025-12-15 20:05
I disagree with that too. Tony is absolutely selfish at times, but not 99% of the time. He put himself on the front line, very very specifically risked his own death to protect others in every Avengers Movie (including Civil War, which may technically be a Captain America movie, but it is about the Avengers as a whole).
Avengers 1, he took the nuke into the portal and knew it was uncertain if he would make it back or survive.
Ultron - was caused by his selfishness, yes. But his plan to breakup the floating island required someone on each the top and bottom who might not live through it, and he took one of those spots, giving Thor (the least breakable Avenger) the other. Cap or Hulk would absolutely be more likely to survive than Tony, but he didn't even ask.
Civil War - When he finally understood (and yes it took him too long to listen) the danger of these other potential super soldiers, he took the risk himself to go take them out. He did so alone and while injured. He took the physical risks and the legal risks involved (and he knows he's not a match for Cap one-on-one, let alone 5 unknown super soldiers.)
Infinity War - He didn't know the scope of things yet, but he acted on a moment's notice and took a one way trip to space to rescue Dr. Strange. He's the one who got in Thanos's face on the other planet. He's the one who took a moon to the face fighting Thanos.
Endgame - He risked everything and he got most of what he wanted for others. He died, and his daughter is growing up without a father, Pepper is a widow. But otherwise he got what he wanted for the world. And he got to not be the only one left after everyone else on the team died. The fear he had been running from since Age of Ultron didn't come true.
Meximanly2025-12-15 19:09
Ahhh yes. The man who literally stood ALONE before an entire army of gods an monsters from a different timeline. An army that he already lost to once before and it cost the lives of half the universe. Literally duked it out and was about to give his life for the sake of the universe... What an ass hole... because he lived a happy life?
The life he gave up previously? When he sacrificed himself to save New York, knowing that he was going to die in the 1940s and instead got thrust into the future with no chance of seeing the love of his life again? What a jerk.
Kylynara2025-12-15 19:48
Cap got what he wanted. And Tony and others died. That's true. But Cap didn't kill them. Cap didn't ask them to put their lives on the line. Tony refused to figure out time travel, and Cap accepted it. But then Tony couldn't put the idea down and did it anyway. That was Tony's choice. The plan was never for Tony to do any snapping. Tomy did that of his own choice and free will, due to the way the battle was playing out. Tony's mind works fast, he had more opportunity than anyone would have to know the consequences of his actions, and he still chose to do it.
Further, lots of people got what they wanted. Does that make them pieces of shit too? Clint got his wife and kids back. Scott got his wife and daughter back. Rocket got Groot and the Guardians back, etc.
If anything, I feel like Tony's sacrifice spurred Steve on to take life and live it for himself before it was too late. And I want to note about Tony's sacrifice, that he proved in Avengers 1 that he was willing to make it (and I would argue that him fighting the arms dealers to reclaim Stark weaponry in the MK2 during Iron Man was also him putting his life on the line to protect other people, but I can see the view that it was about clearing his name.)
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If you're asking an open-ended question, try to add your own personal answer and the reasoning.
Is that your argument?
Like, Captain America got a happy ending and as such he's an asshole because Tony did not?
I honestly don't know what prompted you to share this third of an idea.
Avengers 1, he took the nuke into the portal and knew it was uncertain if he would make it back or survive.
Ultron - was caused by his selfishness, yes. But his plan to breakup the floating island required someone on each the top and bottom who might not live through it, and he took one of those spots, giving Thor (the least breakable Avenger) the other. Cap or Hulk would absolutely be more likely to survive than Tony, but he didn't even ask.
Civil War - When he finally understood (and yes it took him too long to listen) the danger of these other potential super soldiers, he took the risk himself to go take them out. He did so alone and while injured. He took the physical risks and the legal risks involved (and he knows he's not a match for Cap one-on-one, let alone 5 unknown super soldiers.)
Infinity War - He didn't know the scope of things yet, but he acted on a moment's notice and took a one way trip to space to rescue Dr. Strange. He's the one who got in Thanos's face on the other planet. He's the one who took a moon to the face fighting Thanos.
Endgame - He risked everything and he got most of what he wanted for others. He died, and his daughter is growing up without a father, Pepper is a widow. But otherwise he got what he wanted for the world. And he got to not be the only one left after everyone else on the team died. The fear he had been running from since Age of Ultron didn't come true.
The life he gave up previously? When he sacrificed himself to save New York, knowing that he was going to die in the 1940s and instead got thrust into the future with no chance of seeing the love of his life again? What a jerk.
Further, lots of people got what they wanted. Does that make them pieces of shit too? Clint got his wife and kids back. Scott got his wife and daughter back. Rocket got Groot and the Guardians back, etc.
If anything, I feel like Tony's sacrifice spurred Steve on to take life and live it for himself before it was too late. And I want to note about Tony's sacrifice, that he proved in Avengers 1 that he was willing to make it (and I would argue that him fighting the arms dealers to reclaim Stark weaponry in the MK2 during Iron Man was also him putting his life on the line to protect other people, but I can see the view that it was about clearing his name.)